#135 · A better way to sell AI automations

youtube ↗Pricing

Is $3 per page a fair price for my WordPress automation service, or should I switch to a monthly/tiered model? Should I offer it for free initially to showcase value? Also, any advice on improving my recording and presentation skills despite limited camera experience?

Regarding your WordPress automation pricing: charging $3 per page (based on your two‑hour effort) undervalues the work because the marginal cost of running the automation is near zero. Instead of billing per run, give the system away for free on a pilot campaign to demonstrate its value, then switch to a tiered monthly fee—for example, around $2,895 for 1,000 campaigns per month. This aligns pricing with the client’s ongoing benefit and avoids messy usage‑based billing. On improving your recording and presentation skills: I was in the same boat—lots of door‑to‑door sales experience but almost no camera time. I fixed it by recording Loom videos daily at high volume. The trick is to mentally flip a switch: imagine an audience listening, just as you do when speaking to a real person, and then talk naturally. Repetition builds comfort, so keep creating content. Beyond that, I’ve been working on Maker School exclusives to reduce churn. I’ve posted long‑form videos (like an hour‑plus content‑machine walkthrough) and plan another exclusive (perhaps a calendar). Tracking metrics shows our monthly recurring revenue dipped from ~305 K to ~34.5 K, indicating a 23.6 % churn that I’m addressing with exclusive content. Even if Maker School vanished, I could fall back on my agency, scaling it to $150‑200 K/month and using that social proof to boost my YouTube channel. I’m also exploring private‑equity and other ventures, but the core takeaway is that the skills I’ve built—community building, content creation, sales process—are transferable to any business model.

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youtube ↗Niches

Can a service be scaled to $10K/month? What about saturated niches like video editing? How would I scale them given cheap hourly rates? How do you sell a service with no proof?

The first point: you're claiming the video editing market is saturated. I'd say there are far more new market entrants in AI than in video editing, and many are applying AI to video editing, changing the economics. Is AI just automation drag-and-drop backends, AI agents, or does it encompass all knowledge work? If so, there are many entrants, making it very saturated. However, I like highly competitive markets because they suggest opportunity and money to be made; competitors often do a poor job, so with a little first‑principles thinking you can be vastly better. For example, Upwork is saturated but the average proposal is terrible spam. By improving basic elements—profile picture, message bubble, cover letter, spelling/grammar—you can stand out and dominate. When you do that, you don't need to worry about cheap hourly rates because you'll be in the top 1% of the 1%, following a power‑law distribution. How to charge for outcomes with video editing: I often get pitched outcome‑based deals. The better outreach is to say you've managed channels for big names or done editing for any video, letting you claim views from those channels (even if the views came from brand growth). You can guarantee improvements in metrics like watch time or CTR. For instance, guarantee a lift in average watch time. You take their starting statistic over the last 90 days, run your service for a set period, build a relationship while editing, and by the end they'll know and like you, having worked with you. If you're a thumbnail designer, you could guarantee CTR improvement. Finally, how to start selling with no proof: use the service on your own business. If you were selling cold email, you'd run it on your own business, generate opportunities (e.g., 28 meetings in 4 days for an IT or software firm), then bootstrap that into proof with each client you work with.

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youtube ↗Lead Generation

Hey Nick, after I joined Maker School, what would be the rough monthly budget that I should have considering all the tools and upper connects can add up quite a bit? Sorry, I didn't mean to down thumb you. If you give a specific number range, thanks a lot.

Your monthly budget varies mainly with outreach volume. Many people find sending 10 Loom videos daily overwhelming, but I never considered it hard when starting out. Think of it like coal miners who just accept mining as their job—your baseline for effort. Not everyone does 10 Upwork applications daily (my month‑one recommendation); we usually taper to 3‑2 per day later. Upwork connects average about $3 each; after boosting and view‑rate adjustments, assume roughly $4 per day if you send four applications daily, totaling ~$240 monthly if done 20 days a month. The idea is that by the time you’ve spent that amount, you’ll likely have landed a client who covers at least that cost, ideally 5‑10×. Add fixed beginner costs of $100‑$250 for Upwork. You’ll need a cold‑email system: I recommend services costing $55‑$60 for mailboxes/domains in month one, then $35/month thereafter (e.g., Instantly, Smartlead). Lead‑scraping services run about $1‑$1.50 per thousand leads; targeting 3,000 leads adds ~$5/month. Putting it together: ~$40 for cold‑email, $50‑$60 for mailboxes/domains, and $100‑$250 for Upwork connects, giving a realistic monthly range of $350‑$400 for a total beginner doing moderate outreach. The biggest variable is how much outreach you actually do.

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youtube ↗Agency Operations

How do you handle pass-through credits for services like Appify, Chatp, and Instantly? Do the credits come out of your build, and how do you set this up?

No—I just get the client to pay for it. When I say pass through, the clients are paying for it. If you want to set it up, you have to do it manually, which sucks. You could update it once a month. If you have their Stripe, you could theoretically auto‑build using Stripe after calculating monthly token usage, but I don't think that's a good idea. The credits don't auto‑build; they stay manual. If you want to do pass‑through, tell the client how much the tokens cost at the end of the contract and then handle it. If you need it ongoing, you need a way to calculate token usage automatically. It's annoying, so I don't recommend it. Snapo thanks me for the free game. I record videos with OBS Studio; zooming or switching views is done live, not in post‑production, which cuts editing time and removes the need to publish to post. I've been building and documenting an automation as well. The fastest way to scale depends on where you are. If you lack demonstrated value, inbound won't work—you need proven results. I've built two agencies, one at $92K and another at $72K, and my agency will soon far exceed those numbers because I've grown the team. I've shown success doing what most people want: starting an agency in the agency space. People want to know how to do that, make money with it, bootstrap, and do cold emails. I'm good at all that, so when I talk about it it's like listening to a bank robber rate his top 10 heists, Lionel Messi rate his top 10 plays, or LeBron talk about dunking. I'm not claiming to be the LeBron of AI automation, but I am the LeBron of AI automation in terms of experience. If you don't have equivalent experience, inbound won't work. Your oldest video is 10 months old; if you've made less than $20K in 10 months (about $2K/month), you'd be better off starting with cold outreach instead of documenting your approach. I hate to say it, but that's the truth. The fastest way to scale really depends on your starting point. Hopefully I've made my point clear. I didn't start with YouTube videos; I made money first, got good at delivering value, then realized I could talk about it for hours, found it affordable to create content, gained authority, and started making videos—and it worked.

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youtube ↗Lead Generation

Have you made a video about paid ads for your automation agency? Do you see any Meta ads for it? Is paid ads a viable lead generation strategy compared to cold emails or Upwork?

Interesting that you point that out. That's probably a measure of buyer intent—if you're searching for the term, you already know what a website is, so it's a more mature market; you don't need to explain the value as much. You can just say your websites are better because of X, Y, Z, since people already know what the product is. You could do something similar with automations, but with automation services you need to be specific—like lead-gen automations, proposal generators, CRM automations, etc. If you're asking whether I've ever thought about paid ads for my own automation agency: I did experiment with paid ads when I first started, but I didn't see many results because I'm not very good at paid ads. That's why I've focused mostly on outbound work initially, and now that I'm doing more inbound, I don't really need paid ads. However, I am considering a retargeting campaign—just for transparency—where I retarget people who visited the Maker School 'About' page with YouTube and Facebook ads. As for the $20 a day to get good results: that's pretty great. I'm not sure about the exact customer lifetime value, but $20 a day is about $600 a month. Assuming you advertise on weekends, that's roughly one website per month. I don't know your COGS, but they're probably high unless you have a team. In Australian dollars, $600 a month is even less, which is great. I'm actually hiring someone right now to handle retargeting ads, looking to spend about $1,500 a month, and we'll see how it goes.

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