What is your strategy for finding clients or leads for a content creation and scheduler app targeting small businesses and social media agencies? Should I focus on SMBs, agencies, or both using cold email outreach?
Great question. I should make it abundantly clear that when you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail. My hammer is cold email, so I try to solve every problem with it. Cold email isn’t always the most effective marketing method, but it’s like a video game where you keep playing the main character because you’re best at it. I would definitely use cold email. I’d start by pitching these SMA agencies. I’d go to Apollo and filter for 1‑11 staff, looking for digital marketing, digital agency, or creative agency. I’d use the OR operator to pull as many as possible—probably a list of 30 k to 50 k in the United States alone. Then I’d blast out my offer with the software, giving a free demo. I’d position it as if I’d read the person’s whole life story and built the software just for them. I’d mention that I’ve been following what they’re doing at [their company] and that I used to run a digital marketing agency (maybe I still do). I’d share that I’m suffering from XYZ problem and that this software is the solution I came up with. I’d want to put it in front of them to see if it has value. I’m 100 % confident that running their clients through my system will generate outsized returns, so much that I’m willing to guarantee it and give it away for free just to hear their thoughts. If they’re open to a quick call, we could jump on it. I’d approach this at the higher‑agency level, positioning myself as an agency owner talking to agency owners, not as a SaaS person trying to sell something. I’d get on as many calls as possible and frame them almost as partnerships: give them a trial of the software, let them solve their current problems with it, then use that feedback to improve the software faster and better. Once I have a ready‑to‑go version, I’d charge premium prices. And yes, I’d go straight cold email, starting with agencies because they tend to have more money than SMBs.
If you're using Facebook for this, it's essentially game over--Facebook DMs are extremely difficult, limited to about 10 messages per day per account, and you'll quickly end up in message requests. By contrast, a cold email account lets you send 25-30 emails daily and costs only $2-$4 per month, whereas a Facebook account runs around $50 per month due to verification overhead. Therefore, you need an intermediate step to obtain their email addresses, then conduct cold email outreach. Calling is also effective, especially for towing businesses that are often on the road; you can't reliably email auto shops, so walking in or calling works. This approach isn't perfect, but it's workable. Regarding my own situation: I've realized I need to set up ads. Yesterday I hung out with Jackie Chu in Vancouver, who's now ranking for businessman and is a brilliant guy--I plan to send him a message. I also met Tom Wang, who's really cool, and Tony, founder of Bessie. Their advice was to run retargeting ads from Maker School; they said not doing so would be idiotic. I agree and will implement that, with help from my team and the school. My strategy is to list the problems my community faces, pick five or ten, and record a video addressing each. The videos will reiterate that Maker School is 100% free if you don't land your first client within 90 days, with a full refund. We also have $20,000 in discounts; most people use about 10%, giving roughly $2,000 off, which means a new member gets an immediate 10x ROI in the first month before even getting a client--so there's no reason not to join. I'll track video completion percentages to gather more data. My offer is strong and the product quality is high, so I'll put it in front of as many people as possible. I'm also excited that a friend is onboarding people for Claro, and I'll meet school guys later today for a coffee-shop flyover activity and other fun. Overall, I'm amped up about everything happening, and I believe ads could unlock insane growth if executed well. As for my channel stats: my main YouTube channel currently shows 471,066 subscribers, which is abysmal growth; other metrics indicate decent growth elsewhere--my paid offer has 7,234 sales, my Maker School rank is still two, and we're making good money, though subscriber growth isn't what I expected because I'm not creating viral head-type videos. I'll keep growing at a steady clip and hope to reach 500k subscribers by year-end.
Obviously you're very financially and resource‑constrained, lacking a laptop, webcam, microphone, and custom domains, yet you’re actively thinking about how to get things done despite those limits — that mindset will take you far. When I say ‘asset,’ I’m referring to the asset‑based outreach strategy I’ve discussed before: you create a high‑quality, customized piece of value that solves a specific problem for a prospect, give it to them with little or no ask, and use it to break the ice instead of sending a plain cold email. These assets are high‑value and very effective when they truly address the prospect’s pain points, though they do require considerable time and effort to produce. Examples of assets include: using AI to generate newsletters from a prospect’s website, then formatting them into a polished newsletter (about 80‑90 % complete) that you send for free; for coaches or consultants, running an automation that pulls the top‑10 trending videos in their niche, feeding those titles into AI to generate a set of strong title ideas, and delivering those titles; video editors editing a prospect’s video and sending it over with a note like, “I love your channel; I’ve edited a bunch of your content for you — just wanted you to have it”; taking long‑form video content, running it through a short‑form clip generator (e.g., Opus, Stockclip) to produce a bunch of short clips, then sending those clips to an influencer or creator with a message such as, “I clipped your content for free; feel free to use it — I do this professionally and would be happy to help you further.” You can mix and match any of these ideas in your outreach. In your situation — no Loom video, no custom domain, no paid cold‑email tool, only an old PC and Gmail — your best leverage is your ability to build such assets rather than relying on pure sales skill. If you need a laptop for a Zoom call, borrowing one from a friend works well. Your resourcefulness and gumption are exactly what will move you forward.
I think the core problem isn’t the offer itself but the amount of outreach you’re doing. Based on the numbers you shared you’re probably doing far fewer outreach actions than a typical agency—maybe 24 × less than you think. If you tally every email, DM, call, or LinkedIn message you sent in the first month you’ll see you could have done many more. The growth equation is simple: more outreach equals more leads, which equals more clients. So before you scrap the model, double‑down on consistent, high‑volume outreach (cold email, LinkedIn, etc.) and track those metrics. Once you have a reliable pipeline you can decide whether to specialize, but the immediate fix is to increase outreach dramatically.
Yeah, unfortunately unless you're slotting into a team that does cold email specifically, there's little reason to just work with you to build out and manage the system—you might work as a consultant but not handle the whole management side. It just doesn't work in practice; you've got to play the cold email game. People don't realize the layers involved and don't treat cold email leads like gold, so you can't just sell the system and have them self-manage it. Unfortunately, you do it, train them on it, and over several months they can learn to operate it and then you can pass it off. But if you're doing a guarantee offer—which I do—then best to treat you as an API endpoint: they give you money, you give them the result. To make sure the client doesn't see you stop sending emails, I'd assume they'd worry after seeing 10 uninterested emails. Yes, absolutely. So I use AI to filter those out: when I get a reply, I use an instantly received webhook or smart lead reply webhook, filter it with AI to see if it's interested, and if so, pass it through to their Slack with a formatted message saying, 'Hey, we just generated you a new lead. Here's their information.' I do the same for every booked call; the Slack channel ends up being nothing but wins. Hopefully that makes sense. All right, just a little under the weather again. Full cold email delivery—I've made videos on this before, though I don't know which one. Thanks for the value. Do you currently use only ClickUp to set up CRM? When you build a custom CRM, do you build a sub base as a back end? Yeah, it's almost entirely ClickUp; I don't use Superbase as a back end—it's a custom database, and I don't really care about that. Is Lovable secure enough to use your client solutions, not just as a prototype? No, it's definitely not secure enough to use as a client solution on its own. We see this because a lot of these vibe-coded apps are getting hacked—like the T app, which released hundreds of thousands of women's profile pictures, email addresses, locations, and photos online. This happens because these systems are often vibe-coded, and we're seeing more of them get hacked. So I wouldn't use a vibe-coded app to deploy a live solution with a database, user login, etc. If it's just a simple front end visualizing non-valuable data, that's fine, but if you want to make somebody an app, don't do that.