#245 · why most AI automations make no money

youtube ↗Client Acquisition

I've been building AI customer service systems, and most clients came from Upwork and referrals — I've got a case study for a big property management company where a system led to big savings, and I built others for medical practices too. My issue is generating demand myself outside of referrals: is this sellable via cold outreach, and can it be turned into a front-end offer? I've sent thousands of cold emails with only one booked meeting, plus LinkedIn DMs and content, and I don't know if that's the right play or if I should pivot.

Right now you're focused on the savings, and I think that's the main thing you've understood automations to provide, but savings is a small fraction of the total value of an automation. Say you build a system that saves 10 salespeople 1 hour a week each — that's 40 hours a month, and if they're paid $50/hour that looks like a $2,000/month automation. That looks sizable, but it's only a small part of the value you're capable of providing. The big thing isn't the savings, it's the revenue: if you free up an hour of a salesperson's time and they can use it to close deals worth, say, $500 in that hour (amortized across their whole workload), you're not just saving $2,000, you're making them an extra $20,000. That's the difference between a savings mindset and a revenue mindset — it's opportunity cost. When I sell a cold email system, I don't say 'this saves you $50/month on cheaper leads,' I say 'this frees up 10 hours a month of your salespeople's time, worth $500/hour, meaning it makes you $5,000.' Reorient your pitch around revenue, not savings — savings only matters if you're working with a multi-billion dollar enterprise. On your second issue: 3,000 emails to one booked meeting is a 0.03% booked-meeting rate. Two meetings would be 0.06%, three would be 0.1% — that's totally fine, not the best ever (ideally 0.5-1%, a meeting every ~200 emails), but it proves it's possible. You've run the equivalent of a 10-minute mile; now make your copy better and run a 9-minute mile.

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youtube ↗Lead Generation

what's your view on AI consulting? What's the current cost per acquisition for an AI agency client?

My view on AI consulting is that there’s no real difference—it’s just consulting repackaged. Whenever you see terms like AI automation, AI consulting, AI growth systems, or AI operators, they’re all the same thing; people are just trying to sell a business model and differentiate themselves in a crowded space, which in content is called packaging. At its core, this is foundational marketing: nothing has really changed since the SMMA craze; we’re still selling marketing systems, just rebranded as AI automation. Most AI automation sellers are actually selling marketing systems—content repurposing, social media automation—so it’s just repackaging. Regarding cost per acquisition for an AI agency client, it depends entirely on your lead‑generation mechanism. If you run an inbound funnel with massive distribution, your CPA is essentially just your time on new inquiries—near zero. If you’re doing Upwork applications at $2 each and need about 33 applications to land a client, your CPA is $66. If you run a cold‑email campaign spending $450 per month and sending roughly 3,000 emails to land three clients, your CPA is about $150. However, CPA alone means nothing unless you also know the order value or lifetime value of the clients. For example, if Pete’s CPA is $64 and he sells a product for $1,000 on average, his CPA is 6.4% of revenue. If Samantha’s CPA is $150 and she sells for $10,000 on average, her CPA is only 1.5% of revenue. You also need to factor in referrals and other variables to judge which business is truly more successful. After that, I mention I’m running out of time because I have a podcast with Jack Roberts. We’ve become fast friends after initially being hesitant to collaborate due to a scarcity mindset. We now chat regularly, run a podcast together, and plan to play video games like Halo, Fortnite, or League of Legends while streaming, which I think will be fun and more engaging. I’m even considering buying a gaming computer just to stream with Jack weekly. Ultimately, I’m moving into Twitch streaming to play video games all day.

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youtube ↗Pricing

On a sales call, how do I explain the cost of running an automation like a lead-gen system without it seeming expensive? My setup fee quote is $700, but if they want to send 20,000 emails a month, how do I frame the extra ~$500-600 in tools/API costs so it doesn't feel like a lot?

First, check your math — 20,000 emails a month shouldn't cost $600. Using something like Amplify credits at roughly $1 per 1,000 leads, that's $20; a HyperGrowth-tier sending plan is about $97, so $117 there; for 20,000 emails over ~26 sending days at 700/day, you need about 25 mailboxes at roughly $4 each, so about $100. All in, that's more like $200-300/month including personalization/icebreakers — not as much as you think. Second, and more importantly: don't sell the cost, sell the expected ROI. Walk the client through it live: 'How much is an average client worth to you?' — say $2,000. 'How many refer another client?' — say 1 in 2. 'Do you upsell anything afterward?' 'How many months do they typically stay?' — say 3 months. That's a $6,000 lifetime value per customer; if half refer someone of similar value, multiply by 1.5 to get $9,000; add in any upsells and you land around $10,000 in total lifetime value per customer this system could add — at that point the $200-300/month in tooling cost looks trivial next to the value being generated.

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youtube ↗Cold Email

What are your thoughts on an AI-powered outbound service for recruiting firms that guarantees 3‑5 qualified appointments per month using hyper‑personalized cold‑email icebreakers, and are cold‑email systems still viable or are there better niches?

First, this isn’t a full business model—it’s a go‑to‑market offer. Your offer is essentially: “I will guarantee you three to five qualified appointments per month using a predictable outbound machine that automatically researches companies and generates hyper‑personalized icebreakers for cold email.” The real business model sits behind that offer: you need to understand your customer acquisition cost versus lifetime value, how you staff and fulfill the service, and the economics after you have paying customers. The concept works; you can apply it to almost any niche if you guarantee a specific number of appointments. The math is simple: if you close, say, one in five meetings and you deliver five meetings a month, that’s one new client per month. At $10,000 per client and a $2,000 monthly cost, that’s a 5× ROI. To improve the offer, be very specific about the guarantee. Saying “3‑5 appointments” is vague; you’re really promising at least three. I’d suggest a clearer guarantee—e.g., 20 qualified appointments per month—with an expected 70‑80 % show‑up rate, and make it clear that the guarantee only covers booked meetings, not attendance. Regarding your concern about splitting attention across multiple businesses, I allocate roughly 60 % of my time to my media brand, 20 % to my agency, 15 % to my SaaS, and 5 % to side projects. Each business experiences diminishing returns after a certain number of hours (about four hours for media, two for agency, one for SaaS). My optimal strategy is to work up to that cap on one business, then rotate to the next, repeating the cycle daily. This “portfolio” approach to time mirrors investment diversification—spreading effort avoids the plateau effect and maximizes overall results.

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youtube ↗Offers

How do you sell ongoing retainers? I'm comfortable pitching individual automation packages but not sure how to approach a retainer model — especially when it's about saving time on admin/back end rather than ongoing marketing. And when do you start to branch out from your chosen niche?

The simplest way to sell ongoing retainers is to start by selling fixed-price offers on the front end. The reason is that retainers by themselves are quite a big ask, especially if the person you're considering working with is a total stranger who's never worked with you before. There's a lot of friction on the front end to get somebody to say yes to $5,000 a month with an average term of six months — people aren't going to want to do that unless they know you're good. So typically you don't sell the retainer first. You sell a fixed offer that is very tightly bounded in scope, has a really short sales cycle, and that you've delivered many times before and are very good at delivering. In my case for cold email, that's 20 booked appointments in 60 days or I give you your money back. You lead with such a strong offer because you want to multiply that top of funnel and make it as big as humanly possible. You will have to refund some people, but probably only 5-10% assuming you're not absolute garbage at the service. So now you're increasing top of funnel by 300% for a cost of 5-10%, which mathematically means you're making 270-285% of what you would have before. Now you have 2.7x as many people in your funnel, which means 2.7x your base multiple on people you get to pitch your retainer to. And now the logic of the retainer is: last time I paid Nick two grand and he delivered me eight grand, that's a 4x ROI. He's now suggesting I pay him five grand a month — if I get a 4x ROI, I'm making 20 grand a month. That's the conversation the person has with themselves internally as they go through this process. It works extraordinarily well.

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