#188 · Why AI Voice Agents (Usually) Suck.

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Should I start a copywriting agency or an AI automation agency with my cousin, given I have copywriting experience but find automation easier to sell?

Well, if I thought starting a copywriting agency was the highest-value thing I could do right now, my product would be called copywriting school. It's not; it's called Maker School, which is all about building an AI automation agency because I believe that's the straightest line to wealth and securing your future. In a gold rush, the people who get rich sell the shovels. If you're selling the shovel—meaning you sell the implementation that automates everything—you're in a much better position than if you sell the deliverable of something that can be automated. Do you know what I mean?

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Nick, I'm 18 and live in a country where small and medium‑sized businesses are far behind with AI and automation; they don't know Zapier or Make. Is it smart to build an automation agency here now to make money during the lag period and level up systems thinking before the window closes?

He says yes, it's smart to start an automation agency now to capture the lag, but you should focus on delivering strategic outcomes and consulting rather than just selling tools. You can still make money with tools, but the real value is in helping clients achieve business results. He also notes that if you're not making $10k/month yet, focus on reaching that income first, and that many traditional businesses (web design, clay pottery) still thrive, so it's not all black‑and‑white.

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youtube ↗AI & Automation

I’m selling AI websites to local businesses with good response but low perceived value; should I switch to an AI automation agency for higher value, despite lacking case studies and needing to target bigger clients?

Start by giving value up front: build a landing page for each prospect, show it to them, then offer to build the full website (or revisions) as a paid service. This lets you demonstrate value, increase reply rates, and later upsell AI automation. You can create many landing pages daily using AI tools (e.g., Claude Max) for little cost, then move clients into higher‑ticket automation services.

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youtube ↗AI & Automation

Is it worth starting an A automation agency in 2025?

Yeah, for sure. I would pivot a bit and brand yourself more as an AI consultant or strategic consultant who uses no-code tools rather than necessarily an AI automation agency. If you think about it, many people don't realize that as a beginner, most of your work as an agency owner is actually just freelancing—being a consultant, sole proprietor, independent contractor. So I would start there, providing services as an individual, and worry about building an agency that provides services later. Because actually doing the thing, getting good at the business, then building the business, hiring, managing, tracking time, payroll—those are two fundamentally different things. Get good at delivering business insights and knowledge, then building systems, and afterwards you can worry about scaling and hiring people.

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How do you differentiate Maker School from other AI automation communities like Jack's?

Yeah, it's a great question. For those who don't know, I run Maker School community, and I'm currently number three on the revenue leaderboard with about $292k. My success comes from how I package the community. I position it as a B2B offer where members pay $184 a month to learn how to get their first paying customer for an AI or automation service. In 90 days they earn back the money they spent (not counting tool costs), effectively getting a customer that pays around $1,000, which feels like a five‑to‑six‑times ROI. While Jack's community and other AI automation groups were first movers just by being the go‑to place for AI talk, I took a sniper‑rifle approach: I niche down to teaching how to build a business, not just how to use AI. Now I'm integrating AI and automation curriculum directly into Maker School—I've finished a make.com and an NAN accelerator and just need to record the videos. We also still do Q&A and similar offerings. Most other automation communities stay broad and less differentiated; I solve the specific problem of wanting to sell something with AI/automation and then actually doing it.

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