#24 · $139,000 in February 2025

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What do you think about productizing automation for resale as an automation agency? For example, creating a cold email and LinkedIn Outreach system and selling the outcome as an offer, essentially reselling the template.

Don't get me wrong—you can do this; there are no hard rules in business, you can bend any rule you want. If you productize an automation for resale as a template and sell the outcome as an offer, you're no longer really an automation agency; you're an Outreach agency. You build one system, execute it well, and sell the outcome—you're selling cold email and LinkedIn Outreach, not automation itself. A community member named SOD did exactly this, scaling to $80,000 a month in revenue, with the vast majority of profit coming from this approach (minus some LinkedIn Outreach). It's totally doable; you're just shifting the essence of your business from automation agency to Outreach agency. Regarding one‑time versus subscription revenue: one‑time revenue looks like big spikes (e.g., January, February, March, April), while subscription revenue shows a gradual, predictable increase in monthly recurring revenue that eventually outscales the spike model if the trend lines favor it. Each has pros and cons—subscriptions give you a stable base minus churn, while one‑time gives big upfront cash but requires you to resell each time. What I usually recommend is to start with one‑time revenue to spike your cash flow quickly, stockpile that money, then reinvest it into a recurring service for growth. That way you get the best of both worlds: a big initial spike plus the ability to invest in growth and email systems, eventually recouping through the recurring model. This works for any service business model—get the big spike, then use that cash to fund growth. You’ll also benefit from referral opportunities and similar advantages that come with the early‑stage burst of work.

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How much has your school community grown? Would you say it's now generating more revenue than your AI agency, especially with them teaching around automation systems and AI?

My AI and automation agency makes significantly less money than my coaching. Coaching is extraordinarily scalable—when you run a YouTube channel with distribution like I do, the optimal next choice is to sell something hyperscalable with zero delivery or logistics, which is what my coaching stuff is. If you're a total beginner, your optimal choice changes depending on whether you have distribution: with distribution, you'd go for e‑commerce or info‑product with a templated service; without distribution, you'd run an agency because agencies let you get your first 10, 20, $50k in revenue super quickly. Agencies allow you to make a lot of money very quickly, but you tend to plateau relatively fast, with further gains being incremental. Contrast that with an information product business (like a community or SaaS), which has zero marginal cost after a fixed development cost, so you make little money at first but way more later. Does this make sense? From my perspective, when I started my agency I was up here, made money quickly, hit resistance, wanted to scale with as little headcount as possible, moved over here, and now I'm significantly higher. Would I recommend doing what I'm doing now to total beginners? No—many people throw away their businesses after starting coaching because they stop doing the main service, become disconnected from implementation, lose skill, and start teaching the wrong way. That's why this YouTube channel is valuable: I'm showing you how I actually generate leads for my agency. I want to change the fraction of my total revenue that comes from this channel; I don't think it's the most effective use of my time per dollar, but I believe it will indirectly lead to more money through authenticity, so I'm getting back to selling outbound for the agency, setting up more inbound funnels, adding calls‑to‑action at the end of videos, and going to hire a team eventually.

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youtube ↗Offers

Should I package my automation as a SaaS subscription product rather than selling it as a service?

I think packaging automation as a SaaS product is cool. I've done this before for many viewers. You can view it as a way to improve consolidation, but essentially you can treat SaaS as either green or blue—just a label. SaaS product growth over time is tricky at first, then you hit product-market fit and scale rapidly. For most of the lifetime, especially the first couple years, you make basically no money, unlike an agency or service implementation where you can earn a fair amount right away. Agency revenue tends to be up and down and hard to scale; after 2-3 years, an agency might still be where it started, while a SaaS product could have completely overshot it. So there are pros and cons depending on the time scale you plan for. Market dynamics also help—SaaS is becoming easier to build with no-code tools. Additionally, you can package an automation as a SaaS but still sell it as a service implementation. For example, take your automation workflow and have Lovable or Bolt create a simple front end for it. If you want more nuance, check out a video where I actually built one. I don't recall which specific video it is, but there's an example: me wearing a backward baseball cap, turning a 2K automation into a 10K SaaS no-code product using Lovable to package the automation I built as a SaaS product resembling a little proposal generator. You can try that approach, but still sell it as a service. Hopefully that answers your question.

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youtube ↗Lead Generation

Two years into building an automation agency alongside my consulting job I have three clients generating $20K revenue—one from Upwork, one from cold email, and one referred from that cold email client. The cold email ROI is great but relying on a single client per month isn’t repeatable. I’ve built several AI tools (SEO generator, social post generator, meeting summary tool, product copywriter) and have healthy inboxes but almost no meetings. I’m considering a productized, done‑for‑you service helping CFOs get invoices paid faster. Should I scrap the current model and go all‑in on one narrow offer, or does having only three clients in two years indicate something else is broken? Also, am I not doing enough outreach?

I think the core problem isn’t the offer itself but the amount of outreach you’re doing. Based on the numbers you shared you’re probably doing far fewer outreach actions than a typical agency—maybe 24 × less than you think. If you tally every email, DM, call, or LinkedIn message you sent in the first month you’ll see you could have done many more. The growth equation is simple: more outreach equals more leads, which equals more clients. So before you scrap the model, double‑down on consistent, high‑volume outreach (cold email, LinkedIn, etc.) and track those metrics. Once you have a reliable pipeline you can decide whether to specialize, but the immediate fix is to increase outreach dramatically.

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youtube ↗Niches

What automation ideas can I build and sell to IT companies as a subscription, and how do I choose and market them as a beginner?

He explains that IT companies are service businesses and follow the same funnel as any other service business: lead generation, sales (discovery/scoping call), conversion (proposal/agreement/invoice), onboarding (kickoff call), fulfillment (building IT systems), and retention (ongoing management/managed service). Because the funnel is universal, you can adapt systems from other niches—cold‑email, speed‑to‑lead (PPC), content (SEO), automated referral/follow‑up/reactivation, proposal generator, asset generator, CRM, sales admin, webhook‑triggered kickoff calls, AI‑generated project briefs, and a template library for one‑click implementation. The key is to take a bird’s‑eye view, draw inspiration from adjacent niches, and teach the client to fish rather than give them a fish.

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